One thing that kind of bugged was why Dr. and Mrs. Gilbert forged Elena's birth records to make it seem like she was their biological daughter.

But if Damon got Bree to create a mystical clone of Katherine that Isobel had to bare, maybe after giving birth, Isobel has second thoughts thinking she doesn't want to bring back Katherine and her evil and death she brings and for a second decides to kill baby Elena but either stops or Dr. and Mrs. Gilbert stop her, but she breaks up and runs away. Dr. and Mrs. Gilbert, thinking that Isobel is just nuts and might actually kill this baby girl, decide to hide Elena since they don't want Isobel to get that baby back. So Dr. and Mrs. Gilbert never wanted to tell Elena about adopted since her biological (or at least the person they think is Elena's biological mother) tried to kill her as a baby. Also why Aunt Jenna gives that weird look about Isobel. And also why Isobel, is she's the same Isobel that married Alaric, hides out in North Carolina and why Damon tracked her down to there. He wanted Isobel out of the way when his whole clone plot came into action so he either killed her or turned her into a vampire to get her out of the way.

So running this idea of Damon getting Bree to create his Katherine clone, maybe Damon killed Bree not just because he was upset with her over calling Lexi's boyfriend Lee, but because he doesn't want her to ever tell Elena about his plan for Elena?

Now, do I actually think this will happen? Not really, but it's just messing around.

thats a really interesting thought! i agree that would be really cool too explore but its a lot to handle and follow lol! i really wonder where they are going to go with this whole adoption thing. sometimes i think they just put something in there to make it interesting without thinking about it deeper and without planning to give answers (ie. the whole zach thing.) Now i'm really beginning to question why Isobel was turned i f that was the case

Actually one thing that Julie Plec mentioned to TV Guide Magazine was that something that attracts Elena to Damon is that while Stefan lied her (or staked her months and knew about that something fishy was up about her birth although I've tired of pointing the holes in that story), Damon never lies to Elena (which there are also some whole in). Apparently for Julie Plec, dishonest and homicide trump each other...

But if Damon's whole shtick is honest, then maybe him actually being involved 17 years ago in Elena coming into existance and not mentioning it might not fit into that shtick.

Still something up? There are just random physically identical girl of the exact right age walking around that town when the comet comes back into orbit and Damon has been planning for Katherine's escape from the tomb, right? Plus Damon gets pretty nutty about any and all things Katherine, so his nonchalance to Elena being physically identical to Katherine seems out-of-character, especially when compared to how nutty got about Elena when he first saw her face. Plus if Isobel, Alaric's wife, is also Isobel, Elena's birth mother, then maybe Damon doesn't know (fitting into his honesty thing) but then it's just a random coincidence that he bites and either kills Elena's birth mother or turns her into a vampire although that doesn't really fit either...

Actually didn't even noticed the whole quote. What Julie Plec said to TV Guide Magazine was, "Damon never lied to her and didn’t’ have sex with her. At least not yet."

So... maybe I don't have to give up on this possibility just yet.

Maybe somebody else we haven't meet is creating a Katherine clone? Seems Katherine never lacked for enamored sycophants.

If Katherine isn't in the tomb, then who would plan who having a clone that is the same age and resides in the same town as the tomb. Somebody that thinks she is in the tomb?

Again, over complicated it, but now even more confused on this coincidence (if it is a coincidence).

I really don't know how two women can be exactly the same... I mean, if Elena descended from Katherine, she may look like her a little (brown hair and brown eyes only) but she CAN'T look totally like her. So there is something more than genealogy.

Yep, that's exactly what I was going to say.....

I thought the reason Stefan was watching Elena in the first week of the show was because he wanted to make sure she WASN'T Katherine. That's the impression I was under.
The whole clone idea is very interesting, but out there!

I mean if Katherine was Elena's 5th-great grandmother, assuming Elena isn't inbreed, Elena would only share 0.781 25 % of her ancestry with Katherine. Plus it's not just being physically identical, but that she also the same age when the comet's orbit brings it back is the same town that Elena just happens to live too.

Plus random thought, if their romantic relationship doesn't work out, Stefan can just retry with Elena's physically identical great-great-great-great-great granddaughter and just register for Mystic Falls High School in Fall Term 2154. If you think that's weird, remember it's basically what Stefan is doing now if you think Katherine is Elena's ancestor.


Clones are pretty far out for sure, but clones are only genetically identical. Identical twins are technically clones of each other, but they have different personalities. So just imagine identical twins born centuries apart and one of those twins was turned into vampires.

Plus Stefan wasn't that thorough in his investigation/stalking. He still didn't find out why Katherine and Elena are physically identical.