i read that quote to...but how messy would that be!? I mean come'on how can they just throw some random brother in there without any mention at all within 15 episodes. That's like how it would be if they suddenly threw Meredith in as Elena and Bonnies best friend even though we haven't heard a work about her. The producers said Meredith would be thrown in but I think it was just too make fans happy. It just doesn't make sense to me to randomly put someone in there with absolutely no mention at all! If there is a 3rd brother it would be interesting...but I wish they would stay a little truer to the book atleast with the basic plots they've already done so much other stuff. Another brother would just complicate things...would he be a vampire too?
I definitely think Damon is going to come help Elena and Stefan. He always does; although he says he hates his brother and that he will be the only one to kill him...he loves him and everyone knows it no matter how hard it tries. It's quite cute! I hope that soon Stefan admits to Damon the truth about how Katherine got captured and what he REALLY said to his dad.

Where do you live? I live in Maryland and we got like 2 feet of snow ontop of the 6 inches and are expecting another foot tomorrow night. Today was the first time I could get out of my house in 4 days and they only plowed my street because its pass threw road
I agree I think Elena is going to be pissed at Elena and he definitely didn't "kiss" her head...it was more of a sniff (which is weird lol.) Elena won't ever actually get killed without coming back to life since shes the main character. But i think this episode pushed her away from Damon even more. Maybe when and if he rescues her they might make up. I don't think the love triangle is really building all that yet. I just think the writers are trying to show that Damon is starting to have real emotions and trust some people selectively, although he was going to betray them by going himself which bothers me. The writers want to show us that Damon and Elena are not hostile anymore but it has no way developed into a love triangle.

@Jala, I pretty much agree with your whole post thats what I've been thinking all along especially about Damon and the betrayal thing. And I also though Elena was talking about everything when she said Stefan hadn't done anything wrong, not just the graveyard. I think both brothers were hurt by having to dig up their fathers grave he might not have been the most understanding but nonetheless he was their father.


Totally agree there In my mind I always thought Damon was 23, but definitely between 21-23 if not.


once again this is correct, imagine this happening to you...you'd be completely freaked! or atleast I know I would. I mean he MADE her drink blood that's disgusting unless you're a vampire which she isn't yet. But that small amount of blood should pass thru he system in no time. I don't think theres a chance of her turning into a vampire in this season, maybe next season.

regarding the whole sunlight issue:
I personally think that townspeople had thought they killed all the vampires by putting them in a tomb. I mean really they live in a small town; do you think they would have thought others exsisted? I mean they were probably overwhelmed with 27?! Which by the way I wonder how that number came about b/c that's quite a lot and they made no mention of others in last weeks episode. I understand it was dumb not to mention that they could walk in the sunlight in the journals , but I don't think they were meant to be "hunting guides" at all. I think that the modern townspeople took what they could out of them but probably don't even understand most of it.

After yet another viewing of this episode, I have to comment on Damon's words as he threatened to "snap Elena's neck." He said that they'd both have a vampire girlfriend. I'm wondering if he meant his girlfriend was Katherine and Stefan would have Elena (as a vampire) or if Damon had a slip of the tongue and admitted feelings for Elena he didn't even realize he had.

Also, I saw an earlier post about Pearl warning Anna as she approached the horse. I'm thinking it was "Mom reflex." I still tell my 12 year old to watch out in parking lots even though she's taller than I am. I think it is just a hard thing to let go of. (Also, animals might startle easily around vampires....)

So, I have a fresh little query and an observation after watching the episode again:

1. Why was Stefan digging in human slow motion? He should have been able to dig that grave out and fill it in about 30 seconds...

2. Did anyone else notice that the date of death on Guessepie Salvatore's grave was January 1864? Intersting related to what we know now. Perhaps Damon kills his own father? Hmmmmm...

Yes, I've been wondering about this!

It wouldn't necessarily have be messy. It would be kinda random, but its not like they've mentioned any other family members either. Since they haven't said that Damon and Stefan don't have another sibling, if its ever explained how Zach was related to them it's still a possibility.

Was it ever said if any of the other vampires could go out during the day? If quite a few of them could, maybe the journal writers assumed that all of them could, and thats why it wasn't mentioned in the journals. Probably not a very good theory, but, hey, at least I tried .

Oh, please don't get me wrong. I wasn't saying that what Damon had done was any worse than what Stefan and Elena did. Every fiber of me feels so sorry for Damon, and I completley understand what he's doing and why he's doing it. Which makes me feel even sorry-er for him.

you know i feel sorry for them all for different reasons. Elena's lost her family and got consumed into this world she had no idea about which seems to cause her a new trouble in every episode. i love the drama but i wish there could be one peaceful episode where all three try to understand each other. or hopefully next episode Stefan exlpains to Damon what really happend.
I felt very bad for Damon, especially with that look, but I feel the way he reacted wasn't right...i think he was just trying to scare them. And it worked. I think within this next episode Damon's going to realize releasing Katherine isn't the best idea and maybe regret his decision. By Damon going by himself by the grave he was betraying Elena and Stefan...but I'm not sure it was to the same degree as they did to him. Elena and Stefan could expect Damon to do that, they know him. Not saying thats an excuse or anything it was wrong on both parts.
I think Elena and Stefan felt like they were doing the right thing by protecting their town in the modern day. Personally I think they were doing the right thing, my heart broke for Damon but releasing the vampires could potentially be fatal. Although Damon's reaction looked depressing I don't think he was all that suprised. I know I wasn't convinced that he actually believed Elena in the kitchen why would he ask twice and give her that look? Initally I think he was shocked and tried to come back with whatever would hurt Stefan b/c he thinks Stefan is behind any type of pain in his life (i guess b/c of the past.) Damon must have been shocked to see Stefan there but I don't think it was too big of a suprise. Damon probably had about 25% hope in his brother to help him out.
No matter what they are brothers and I think Damon will help Stefan no matter what as they both ALWAYS help each other out. I'm so upset about this hitaus but hopefully they'll run a marathon again I liked to watch from the beginning. I also have a feeling that Damon will come to the resue of Bonnie...maybe use that as an excuse to get Elena. I doubt he'll straight out say he's gonna help Stefan out.

Do you think we'll get more flashbacks next week? What do you guys thinks in store for us and the Mystic Falls crew??

I really hope that there are more flashbacks because we still haven't seen how Katherine dies as well as how the boys are turned. I really want to see that... Even though we could hear about it second hand, I want to see it.